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Comment by HunterSalty

The other option is Gnomish Engineering.

Comment by yoolen

Materials are as follows:

20 Big Iron Bombs

30 Heavy Blasting Powder
30 Iron Bar
10 Silver Contact

20 Solid Dynamite

10 Solid Blasting Powder
10 Silk Cloth

5 Explosive Sheep

10 Wool Cloth
5 Whirring Bronze Gizmo
5 Bronze Framework
10 Heavy Basting Powder

Total Raw Materials Required:

20 Solid Stone
40 Heavy Stone
30 Iron Bar (30 Iron Ore)
10 Silver Bar (10 Silver Ore)
20 Bronze Bar (10 Copper Ore + 10 Tin Ore)
20 Wool Cloth
10 Silk Cloth
5 Medium Leather

Comment by annasender

200 Engineering is required to make this quest available.

At level 20 at 150 engineering it was not offered, as soon as I hit 200 engineering, this quest came up as available.

Comment by itsmycookie

To craft everything needed for the quest these material amounts are needed.

40 Solid Stone
70 Heavy Stone
60 Iron Bar (60 Iron Ore)
20 Silver Bar (20 Silver Ore)
20 Bronze Bar (10 Copper Ore + 10 Tin Ore)
20 Wool Cloth
20 Silk Cloth
5 Medium Leather

Comment by 924646

In the game you are given this quest at the tinkerville engineering section in Ironforge (Alliance). The game says that gnomish engineering is also available but, it is not! Per my own search on this site 'gnomish engineering'! Blizzard has made the quest and the profession obsolete. Guess the people involved got tired of things blowing up and killing themselves! So don't do as I did and run around all day looking for the correct trainer! He doesn't exist and won't any longer! Peace!

Comment by leaderavia

each specialization provides different teleports.

goblin: Area 52 and Everlook
gnomish: Toshley Station and Gadgetzan

Comment by OreoLover

Gnomish Engineering recipes (also, Geosynchronous World Spinner)
Teleports: Ultrasafe Transporter: Gadgetzan, Ultrasafe Transporter: Toshley's Station
Locations: Gadgetzan, Toshley's Station

Goblin Engineering recipes (also, Depleted-Kyparium Rocket)
Teleports: Dimensional Ripper - Everlook, Dimensional Ripper - Area 52
Locations: Everlook, Area 52

Have fun choosing one!

Comment by R1NN1

Note: As it says you are able to create 10 Big Iron Bombs and Solid Dynamites with the mats above, do not get frustrated as it creates 2x per. So the mats listing were correct.

Comment by 1424045

To start this quest as a Horde you must go to Roxxik in Ogrimar, or one of the others in another capital city. Ogrimar has other trainers in engineering, but they cannot start quest.

Comment by Skullhawk13

TO ANYONE CONSIDERING THIS.

Goblin hasn't gotten any unique toys in a long time. Gnomish inventions in general will last longer, as many of them are for fun and cosmetic purposes. Goblin should only really be considered if you do not care about the fun stuff, and only want better bombs. But keep in mind, last time they got an improved bomb over gnomish was in cataclsym. On the flip side however, with so few people going goblin, the few exclusives it has will typically sell better.

Think long and hard before you make your decision, the teleporters and various items you will contruct will be far more expensive than the quest materials, so switching might not be as cheap as you would be lead to believe.

Comment by kabookiejoe

They really need to do away with this quest imo

Just let us pick the one we want, without all the nonsense.

Comment by rodalpho

How to switch your Engineering Specialization

The "Soothsaying for Dummies" book next to Narain in Tanaris no longer works. It's not interactable.

1) Unlearn Goblin or Gnomish Engineering by opening your Professions tab, then clicking the little red cancel mark next to Gnomish or Goblin Engineering on the right side.

IMPORTANT: Do not click the red cancel mark next to Engineering on the left. You want the one next to your specialization. If you click the main one, you will unlearn the entire profession and be forced to start over at 0!

2) Talk to Roxxik (H) or Lilliam (A) and accept the quest to switch.

Comment by Zapph

Grants you the Goblin Engineer specialisation for your Engineering. When you unlearn this or the Gnomish Engineer specialisation by talking to the NPC you got it from or clicking the in your profession panel, you will lose all the related learned recipes but they are still stored in your character's Engineering data as they are all automatically restored if you re-learn the specialisation, even after you take the other one (via Gnomish Engineering) and unlearn it.

Comment by sleak

I have always wanted a list of all items that each specialization can create and thought it may be handy for others to determine what spec to enter into. Here is the list of items that each specialization can make, separated out depending on whether you need engineering to use the item. Some items are BOP and would require the engineering specialization to make but not necessarily to use after it is made if you wish to drop the profession or specialization.

As Blizzard has not added anything requiring a specialization for many expansions, the choice between the two will likely be for collecting and selling toys, mounts and transmogs instead of an advantage in PVE / PVP. I have listed the category that each item falls in for collection purposes.

Gnomish Engineer can make:
Everyone can use:
Any Engineer can use:
Gnomish Engineers can use:

Goblin Engineer can make:
Everyone can use:
Any Engineer can use:
Goblin Engineers can use:

Many people have asked which specialization they should choose, hopefully this list should help them decide.

If you are going for transmogs, then you would need a cloth and a leather wearer to go Gnomish while a cloth and mail wearer go Goblin.
If you are going for mounts and/or pets, you would need one character in each specialization, but the mounts and pets are also not BoP so you can find a friend to make them for you or buy them off the AH.

Once you have the transmogs, mounts and pets you want crafted, you can switch your spec to whichever spec has the toys you want. All the toys can only be used by the specialization that makes it.

Gnomish has 3 fun toys as well as portals to Tanaris and Blade's Edge Mountains.
Goblin has portals to Winterspring and Netherstorm, but no other toys unique to the spec.

Comment by biggaz13

Alliance: To become a Goblin Engineer your toon needs to be at least level 30 and 200 in general Engineering. You then need to create 20 Big Iron Bombs, 20 Solid Dynamite and 5 Explosive Sheep. If you are level 200 Engineer you will already have the schematics to make them. The mats are super cheap on the AH.

Once you have made the above items the Engineer Trainer in Stormwind will suddenly have a quest for you to make them (weird in that you have to make them first before he offers the quest!). Just accept and hand them in. He will then give you a choice of Goblin or Gnome Engineering. In this case choose Goblin

Go to the flight master in Stormwind and head down to Booty Bay. When there go down to the docks and jump on the ship. The ship takes you directly to 'Ratchet'. Then just fly over to 68 69 and speak to Vazario Linkgrease. He now has available Goblin schematics

Problem. You will also need to be a higher level Engineer in Pandaria, Northrend, Cata or Outland skills. He will also have higher level (205+ in Engineering) Goblin schematics. Thus no rush to get over there until you meet the above criteria. Good luck

Comment by OceanKobe213

It seems like with the level squish, the level requirement is level 20 as of now. This is what the wowhead page says, so I'm not sure if this is accurate. I'm sure the 200 engineering requirement hasn't changed.

EDIT: I can confirm that 200 engineering is still the requirement for both Gnomish and Goblin Engineering seeing as I leveled my basic enginering on an alt today to get the quest to pop up.

Comment by xxcrittyxx

as of 10.1.7 its level 20 it seems for the quest to appear i maxxed out eng on a level 10 and cannot see it, blizzard why must you make it so you can learn a proffesion at level 10 but cant specialise until a later level this is a classic profession after all let it be there at a level u can learn and max the profession

Comment by mraymus

I'm confused. I'm at level 300 Classic Engineering, 75 Pandaria Engineering, and 58/75 on Cataclysm Engineering. Do I need to go to 75 on Cataclysm before this quest comes available to me? It's very confusing.

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Goblin Engineering

Bring 20 Big Iron Bombs, 20 Solid Dynamite, and 5 Explosive Sheep to an engineering trainer in any capital city.

	Big Iron Bomb (20)
	Solid Dynamite (20)
	Explosive Sheep (5)

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A skilled engineer can choose ONE specialization, and I know the secrets of goblin engineering.

You look like you're ready to blow things up, but I'll need some samples of your work. Bring me twenty big iron bombs, twenty sticks of solid dynamite, and five explosive sheep.

Submit these items to an engineering trainer in any of the capital cities and you'll be an official goblin engineer with access to all the schematics!

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	Goblin Engineer

See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(29475))

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