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DK frost haste soft cap?
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Marnacrock
Is there a such thing? I read the hard cap is not achievable with the current gear(nowhere near in fact),and that when you hit a soft cap you must priorize on other things.Well,I have looked everywhere and never found an aproximate number of haste for this soft cap.I am currently using dual weild as my DPS branch with mostly raid gear and a couple conquest pvp pieces (for the 70 str bonus,and I really cant stand the look of the zul trolol dungeons items).My haste is around 1900 somethings in Unholy presence.I have prety much gemmed all into strenght,reforged hit and exp to caps and then pumped haste all the way up forgeting any other stat.I probably overkilled it and neglected too many other things :/ On the dummy its way too random sometimes it gets stuck on 13K other times goes straight to 20K.I know frost is prety much RNG but i feel theres something missing in the process.For the record Im using the mandatory rune of razorice on main and fallen crusader on off,using dual soul blades..
Thanks offhand
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apocalypsa
The haste soft cap is when you are starting to get GCD capped - aka having too many things to press within the time you have. This isnt reachable in current gear, and what youre doing is exactly right - gem str, reforge to caps and then stack haste is what a frost dk should be doing. Dummy dps doesnt really matter, as many things dont factor in on dummys; a 7k difference shouldnt be possible though. It also depends on how long your parses are - if you only dps for 1-2 min, it can vary a lot. Try just dpsing for a straight 5+ min and you will see more consistency.
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apocalypsa
I've seen several posts brought up on the WoW dk forum about using unholy vs frost pres as DW in 4.1 For a lot of people the theorycrafted "unholy is better now" argument just isn't holding up. I've seen several 10 min+ logs of a 4k difference in DPS between using unholy and frost, unholy being on the bottom each time.
Ùnholy presencs and IBT spec require perfect timing. In theory it provides the best dps; what happens in real scenarios is something else entirely. However, it is quite a change in playstyle and also just needs getting accustomed to.
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apocalypsa
White attacks dont generate RP for DW, just fyi :) FP increases RP generation, UP only indirectly(because you fire more rune attacks you generate slightly more RP aswell).
And yeah, frost is a LOT about using your procs correctly. KM, runic empowerment, Rime and blood tap all have to be watched closely, while unholy has none of those(runic corruption makes stuff ez)
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Marnacrock
Yea in unholy i mess up and end having everything unavaileable and wasting rimes on frost strikes and not obliterates because it goes so fast.Its just horrible when KM just wont activate and end up siting doing white attacks,or rush up to avoid losing a lot of dps for being idle and messing up totally when the KM procs.I also end up RP capped every so often and when Im gona dump it on frost strikes the stupid km THEN decides to jump 2 times in a row.In Frost presence you have much more time to think ,but to someone used to using unholy,runes cycling in frost is like watching paint dry.Of course it all leads to watching 5 greyed out hotkeys because I went too fast / wasted wrong KMs and may as well jump around in circles with a fishing pole.
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