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Post by
DarkOpeth
I was wondering if the Kingslayer title granted upon downing Arthas in 10 or 25 man ICC will still be obtainable in Cataclysm? Thanks for your time.
Post by
Adamsm
They aren't removing the mount achieves, so they probably won't remove the title... of course, anything anyone puts in here is merely their own thoughts; no official word from Blizzard.
Post by
DarkOpeth
Wait the frost-drakes from
Glory ICC 10
and its 25 man version are still available in cata? I thought they were gonna be removed for sure...
Post by
Adamsm
Ulduar's drakes as well, and the 3D's, Ony and all the rest will still be there....and maybe, some day, Blizzard will put the Glory of the Raider drakes back in.
Post by
DarkOpeth
wow thanks for the responses guys. :D this makes me happy.
Post by
Rankkor
so far the only achievements being removed are the ones that ask you NOT to die, but the rest are still in place.
they've contemplated the posibility of making Mirmiron's head and Invincible have a lower drop rate (currently both have 100% chance to drop) but so far they haven't said anything concrete.
I have to admit, lowering the drop is kinda unnecesary, as even with the most obscene gear Mirmiron's hard-mode is the most dificult "nintendo-hard" soul-crushing gold-sinking Keyboard-smashing Curse-spewing fight I've ever done in my entire life.
I honest to god salute with 100% honesty anyone who has the firefighter achievement.
let's not even get to Lich king 25 heroic, as that is basically Mirmiron's hardmode Mark XIII.
gear or no gear, managing to end those fights in hard-mode is hard AND rare enough, add to that the fact that fewer people will go to ICC and much less ulduar once cata ships out (they will suffer the same fate as TBC and Vainilla raids) and there's plenty of reasons to NOT lower the drop rate of these mounts.
is not like they drop 10/25 each kill xD is just 1 per kill.
Post by
Deivijs
Wouldnt make sense to keep it, since everything will be gaining 3x health and all the ICC will be possible to faceroll through.
Post by
Rankkor
Wouldnt make sense to keep it, since everything will be gaining 3x health and all the ICC will be possible to faceroll through.
uhh-huh suuure, because places like sunwell can be facerolled...... no danger in bosses like felmyst or anything.........
bro' there's some fights that will allways be hard regardless of your gear.
Mirmiron hardmode was hard when ulduar was the highest raid, and it is still BRUTAL-HARD today with gear that is trice as potent.
in fact some achievements are HARDER when u got a high gear (example forcing razorscale to kill 50 dwarves in uld) on cataclysm tanks can (and most likely will) end up 1shoting the dwarves themselves due to how absurdly high their damage will be when compared to today.
ditto for deathwisper and her "full-house" achievement.
let's face it, higher gear makes people reckless, and induces the (wrong) idea that they can bypass raid mechanics completely due to how insanely powerfull their gear is. wich is a mistake of course. Raid mechanics are raid mechanics, your gear has nothing to do with it, Step on felmysts breath and you WILL be permanently mind-controlled, step on the blue fire in Illidan's fight and (unless you move) you WILL die. Don't break the spikes on marrowgar's fight and you WILL wipe, don't stack togheter during the slimes on putricide and you WILL wipe, don't establish a biting order on lana'thel or don't spread out during her second phase and you WILL die..... ect ect ect.
ICC bosses will be mostly steamrollable in cataclysm, but ICC heroic achievements (needed for the mount) will certainly wont. I just don't see a random bunch of newbies in CATA gear steamrolling Full-house, or "all you can eat" or god-forbid Putricide and sindragosa on heroic.
the bosses themselves may be easier on cataclysm but the achievements will certainly not be (have you really TRIED the "all you can eat" achievement? seriously dude, that is one F*bleep*ing hard achievement
Post by
Adamsm
Really? Im doubtful that they'd put the Glory of the Raider proto-drakes back. I've really got no evidence for that. Just a gut feeling. Almost like Blizzard wouldnt do it just because they dont want to admit they made a mistake or something. Anyway, I just dont think we'll see them again, in my opinion. :)
/shrug I can dream can't I?
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Post by
Culmination
Well, everyone seems to have overlooked that they might do something along the lines of how they did tribute runs in ToC. Where you need to be wearing gear only obtainable using gear that was max when the raid came out. I'm not saying that this will happen but it's still a possibity.
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Post by
biogoo
This is a very good idea.
Like, if you can only get Kingslayer in level ~80 gear, it would be nice.
Seriously? Farming lvl 80 gear at lvl 85 to get a basic lvl 80 raid achievement? No one cares at all when people keep running TBC raids for achievements, but it seems the easy mode of LK is a sacred one. Its enough when I remember all the people crying that other people can get it with the 5% zone buff, demanding that it should be locked, or at least changed.
But what the heck, no one will care about wrath anymore in a year.
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Post by
vincistis
WOOOOOT the glory of ulduar arent going away (as far as we know) :D theyre totaly the best and theyre gona be so easy in cata! im sure people in greens will do it, i cant wait!
Post by
DarkOpeth
I want to believe this so badly, but this just reeks of last minute, hasty decision making , so I wont get my hopes up.
Post by
erictks
Even with the new patch , downing the lich king will not be an easy task too.. so the achievement should be remain
Post by
Quilan
Most likely everything from ICC 10 & 25 achiv wise will still be obtainable Blizz isn't mean enough to kill an entire Achiv area by taking out reward and titles, hell they still have the herald of the titans achiv for Ulduar which unless you have a basically new 80 pug group with Naxx25 man gear, its unobtainable, but its still there
Post by
Orranis
I don't see why it would be. Titles are only worth as much as the difficulty getting them, when everyone runs around with a Kingslayer title it won't be special anymore.
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